Former Trump White House adviser Cassidy Hutchinson claims, without providing further evidence, that former President Donald Trump said the word “hang” when he saw rioters chanting “hang Mike Pence” during the March 6 rally The Capitol insurrection was playing out on a television in the dining room in the Oval Office on January 1, according to an excerpt from Hutchinson’s new book read by MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.
“I take a few steps back as Mark takes my place in the doorway and strain to listen to both conversations,” Hutchinson wrote. “The television in the Oval Dining Room is blaring and the president is screaming. What does he say? I can not understand. I hear him say ‘hang’ repeatedly. Hang? What is it about? me, the signal for me to return to my desk.
Last year, Hutchinson testified before the House committee on January 6 that she overheard then-White House Counsel Pat Cipollone and then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows describing Trump’s reaction when they were told that the rioters shouted “Hang Mike Pence!” – that he responded that he “deserves it.”
Trump has denied that Pence deserved to be hanged and called Hutchinson a liar. Meadows has not commented publicly.
He previously defended rioters who called for Pence to be hanged.
“Were you worried about him during the siege? “Were you worried about his safety?” Jonathan Karl, ABC’s chief Washington correspondent, asked Trump in March.
“No, I thought he was well protected and I had heard he was in good shape. … No, because I had heard that he was in very good shape. But, but – no, I think.” –,” Trump replied.
“Because you heard those chants, it was terrible. I mean, you know, those,” Karl said, to which Trump replied, “He could have – well, people were very angry.”
In her new book, “Enough,” Hutchinson also reportedly made additional claims about the allegedly chaotic nature of the final days of the Trump presidency, including that Meadows regularly burned documents in his office fireplace.
According to the New York Times, the Guardian and CNN, Hutchinson wrote that Meadows burned so many documents in his office that his wife complained about the cost of dry cleaning his suits to get rid of the “campfire” smell.
Meadows’ spokesman told CNN that the account was misrepresented, claiming that Meadows often used old newspaper to light the fireplace in his office and that it had “nothing to do with documents.”
During her testimony before the House committee on January 6 last year, Hutchinson also testified that then-White House Chief of Staff Meadows left papers in his office after a meeting with Rep. Scott Perry, chairman of the House Freedom Caucus burned.
Appearing on “The Rachel Maddow Show” Monday night, Hutchinson described the alleged misuse of classified documents during the final days of the Trump administration as “reckless and careless.”
“It also shows how reckless and negligent much of the administration has often been in not taking the confidential documents protocol seriously,” Hutchinson said.
Hutchinson appeared on ABC’s “The View” on Tuesday but did not address these claims.
Hutchinson also claims in her book that Rudy Giuliani groped her at Trump’s rally tent on January 6, which Giuliani denied, according to multiple reports.
Despite what she saw in the final days of the Trump administration and in the lead-up to the Jan. 6 insurrection, Hutchinson wrote that she wanted to move to Mar-a-Lago to continue working for Trump after his term ended, USA Today reported. But Meadows told her that Trump suspected her of leaking to the press the names of people who had joined him in Florida.
“My frustration turned to anger. ‘Mark, you can go to hell if you think that,'” Hutchinson wrote, according to USA Today. “That night I went home, unpacked my things and tried to wrap my head around the fact that I wasn’t moving to Florida.”