McCarthy, Scalise “doesn’t fit leadership,” Gaetz tells Tucker Carlson

Florida Republican Representative Matt Gaetz has continued his attack on the leadership of the GOP House of Representatives in an interview with Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

Gaetz said that House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California and Minority Whip Steve Scalise of Louisiana “do not fit the leadership” during an appearance Wednesday night. Tucker Carlson tonight. The day before, Gaetz accused the leaders of being “weak men” for speaking indirectly about him and former President Donald Trump during “wistful phone calls” with Wyoming Republican Representative Liz Cheney.

Carlson lamented that McCarthy and Scalise “did not apologize for what they did” during a closed GOP meeting on Wednesday. According to ABC News, McCarthy instead received a standing ovation from fellow Republicans after defending himself over the phone.

Gaetz told Carlson he doubted McCarthy would still be “in line” to be Speaker of the House if Republicans regained control of the chamber during the November midterm elections, and suggested that the call was evidence of disloyalty to Trump.

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Republican Representative Matt Gaetz said during an interview with Tucker Carlson on Wednesday that House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Minority Whip Steve Scalise “do not fit the leadership.” Gaetz is pictured during a Trump rally in Commerce, Georgia on March 26, 2022.
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“I don’t know if the guy is getting an account on Truth Social at this point based on the inconsistency between the footage and what he’s telling us,” Gaetz said, referring to Trump’s fledgling social media platform.

“And it’s disgraceful for Republicans to give this guy a standing ovation after he slanders Trump, lies to the country, and then tries to condemn Big Tech and the Justice Department against members of Congress whose views he doesn’t share,” he added.

Gaetz argued that McCarthy’s alleged actions were “for the sake of protecting Liz Cheney,” who became one of Trump’s fiercest Republican critics after the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

“This notion that you can have these whining calls and try to foment big tech and DOJ action against Republicans doesn’t suit leadership,” Gaetz said.

On Tuesday, The New York Times reported that McCarthy accused Gaetz of “putting people at risk” during a call from GOP leadership on Jan. 10, 2021, with comments he made on Twitter in the days after the Capitol attack.

Scalise reportedly supported McCarthy’s concerns, which concerned at least in part the safety of Cheney, a then-executive team member who became an outspoken detractor of the former president after Jan. 6.

“He puts people at risk,” McCarthy said of Gaetz during the call Times. “And he doesn’t have to do that. We saw what the people would do in the Capitol, you know, and these people came with ropes and everything else prepared.”

“It’s potentially illegal what he’s doing,” Scalise added Times.

Carlson asked Gaetz if Scalise “apologized” to him for his comments Wednesday, to which Gaetz replied that Scalise told him “I’m sorry if I’m having trouble.”

“[Scalise] didn’t respond to anything, he raised the prospect of making my testimony that Liz Cheney was anti-Trump illegal,” Gaetz said. “That’s not what leaders do.”

During the same conversation about Gaetz, McCarthy told his fellow GOP leaders that he was considering confronting Trump and urged him to leave office over his January 6 behavior.

McCarthy was quick to issue a statement claiming the report was “completely false and false” after the call was first reported last week. That Times then released an audio clip from the call that seemed to contradict his denial.

news week reached out to the McCarthy and Scalise offices for comment. McCarthy, Scalise “doesn’t fit leadership,” Gaetz tells Tucker Carlson

Rick Schindler

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